[LRUG] The puzzling phenomenon of the Rails dev who hardly knows Ruby

Dennis Ideler ideler.dennis at gmail.com
Mon Apr 2 11:54:02 PDT 2018


Apologies for reviving an old thread. Cleaning my inbox and coming across
lots of unread goodies.

Here's a relevant and fun quiz: http://railshurts.com/quiz/. It's not
always obvious when you're using Rails or just plain old Ruby.


On 6 July 2016 at 19:43, Nicholas Johnson <me at nicholasjohnson.com> wrote:

> Hi Steve, Nothing wrong with SO, but I see a lot of people using it as
> their first recourse without trying first to solve the problem themselves.
> In the long term, they don't learn, they get left behind, and it becomes a
> trap that's hard to escape from because they are expected to be able to do
> more than they ever learned how to do. They spend the rest of their career
> hiding their lack of skill. It's a real thing, and very sad to see.
>
> If I need a canonical solution to something though, SO is definitely part
> of my toolkit.
>
> On 6 July 2016 at 16:58, Steve <steve.laing at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I think it's commonplace to copy and paste from Stack Overflow and there
>> are many valid reasons to do so. For example, to avoid wasting time
>> reinventing the wheel on a common problem. I'd say we're all copy and paste
>> programmers at some point in the day or at least in our careers.
>> It's also common to start out working with Rails rather than purely with
>> Ruby, that's no bad thing, if you know enough to get the work you can
>> progress to learning the underlying language.
>> A while ago people would know the Java API by heart, taking Sun
>> Certification (TM) exams to prove it, it didn't automatically make them
>> great Spring developers.
>> My point being we often start out learning the most practical thing to
>> get us work.
>>
>> On 6 July 2016 at 16:14, Nicholas Johnson <me at nicholasjohnson.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Two words - Stack Overflow. When someone is a copy-paste programmer,
>>> they can get quite a lot done quite quickly, and come over as proficient to
>>> the untrained managerial eye, but if anything unexpected happens they will
>>> be lost. I sometimes work with quite old programmers who have been
>>> copy-pasters all their lives and are terrified someone will find out. It's
>>> actually quite horrible for them.
>>>
>>> On 6 July 2016 at 12:36, gvim <gvimrc at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I hear of this a lot - the Rails dev who hardly knows Ruby and I'm left
>>>> scratching my head. How on earth can anyone become proficient in a complex
>>>> framework like Rails without understanding the language it's written in?
>>>>
>>>> Someone please enlighten me.
>>>>
>>>> gvim
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